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Mindless MMORPG

Mindless banter about MMORPG's and any other game I feel like talking about.

Author: Nicod3mus

Snail Tits MMORPG?

Posted by Nicod3mus Monday October 1 2007 at 5:49PM
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So yeah I watch Adult Swim on Cartoon Network habitually.....29 years old and still watching cartoons....yup. At any rate I have seen some commercials for maple story lately featured on Adult Swim. In traditional AS style they are totally off the wall viral video style commercials.

There were a couple commercials but the last one I saw as a fat dood lying on the ground with snails running around on his nipples. A guy walks up and is like, "Why are you doing that." The snail tits guy replies,"Because it's free." The onlooker then says, "Oh it's just like maple story." Or something to that effect.

So whats the catch...crappy, free, MMORPGs like MS are advertising on TV but the big boys aren't? Maple Story is a joke compared to the major titles and it's pretty sad really that the only commercial I see on TV for an MMORPG is one for MS. Pretty freakin lame.

Regardless I hope to see some commercials for real MMORPGs sometime soon. I find myself wanting to make some MMORPG spoof commercials. Someone hitting themselves in the head with a bat for 2Moons and maybe a guy spending $3,000 to get a new rig to play Vanguard then a flash forward to it covered in dust 3 weeks later when the game dies. Here's some pretty funny threads, the video, and stuff about the commercials:

The Commercials

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pU6gN7IcXAo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gdqpY1Bjhco

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yfi_tazQbLo

People Talking Smack

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=924697&topic=38589650

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193181

http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=135332&sid=7178f734cb9c76bcc191c125a1e8d67c

dan7 writes:

i have seen those comercials too. and i literally say WTF? i agree to that its lame that maple story is advertising while all the big mmo's are not.

Mon Oct 01 2007 6:07PM Report
vajuras writes:

you must not know much about MMOs Maple Story it is one of the top MMOs in Asia and you're making fun of it? You should be studying it like most other major publishers are doing. I was just at a presentation the other day where they discussed Maple Story and Habbo Hotel. Additionally it was discussed at Gamasutra.

Mon Oct 01 2007 9:14PM Report
Gajari writes:

lol asia

Mon Oct 01 2007 9:17PM Report
Orthedos writes:

What so funny about asia?

Asia is a bigger market for MMO, the korean monthly-fee paying player base is easily larger that the entire American counterpart.  The Japanese player base is also huge but they play console games heavily.  These are rich players, and the Asian MMOs tho not the types commonly enjoyed by American players, are making money, big money.  So much so that until lately they do not bother visit the english speaking markets.  We cannot play those games unless we can read their languages.

The upcoming new market for MMO is china, if 1% of the chinese population plays a certain MMO, that MMO company will have a hard time constructing enuf rigs to house the players.  EQ was great in those days and we are talking about 30k 50k players.  WoW america is great with 2M players (?).  In Asia, WoW easily commands 3M or more paying customers.

If money-making is all the MMO develpers are looking after and ranked in accordance, then its Asia that defines MMO in the future.  Maple Story may look pitiful to you, but for the money makers, that is the future of gaming business.  They smell $$$.

Tue Oct 02 2007 4:37AM Report
Vagrant_Zero writes:

Except you know...MS doesn't charge a monthly fee. Neither do most asian MMOs. Hence WoW still makes more than they can imagine. Having 10 million users is nice. Having 10 million customers is nicer.

Tue Oct 02 2007 4:44AM Report
Nicod3mus writes:

I have played many Korean games both in ports and in the Korean versions. I am aware of how popular Maple Story is. Does that mean I like it or even consider it anywhere close to on the same level as games like EVE, DOAC, SWG, L2, etc.? Nope.

Maple story is a cartoony social network  of a MMORPG and it's not on par with premier 2nd and 3rd gen MMORPGs. I wouldn't have played it 7 or 8 years ago. As for your advice to me as a publisher and your idea that Maple Story is one  of the big bread winners in the MMORPG genre I say, "hooey". "Maple Story is the future of the gaming business"....sorry dood....I'm telling you it most certainly is not.

Tue Oct 02 2007 12:07PM Report
vajuras writes:

I'm sorry but Maple Story outgrosses all those games. Maple Story is right under IPod for most electronic goods sold. Lineage 2 is the only game from that list that is anywhere close.

Tue Oct 02 2007 12:33PM Report
Nicod3mus writes:

ok wait...outgrosses? It's a free game...how can it out gross anything in terms of units sold. If you are talking about goss revenue or profit again I call BS. Just consider how much WoW alone grosses in monthly subs and that theory alone is out the window. If you are telling me MS makes more than, oh let's just say $100,000,000 a month as conservative WoW guess considering they boast 9 million subs, then I'm laughing. That doesn't even account for the revenue of the game clients and expansions sold.

Tue Oct 02 2007 3:07PM Report
vajuras writes:

I was replying to your post above whereas you mentioned DaoC, SWG, EVE, and L2. Maple Story surely makes more then those. Even Guild Wars makes NCSoft more revenue then City of Heroes for instance. Also, WoW is not monthly subscription worldwide lol. Maple Story has many ways to make money- ingame advertising, item shops, and etc.

Tue Oct 02 2007 6:24PM Report
Nicod3mus writes:

ok...let me be more clear...Maple Story is not one of the most profitable MMORPGs let alone "the future of gaming" or "the most profitable MMORPG".

Tue Oct 02 2007 6:56PM Report
vajuras writes:

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12928

quote- To put it simply, Nexon reported $230 million in revenue for 2005, the bulk of which stemmed from millions of “microtransactions”.

Not one of the most profitable mmorpgs? most mmorpgs are lucky to top 150k subscriptions. Not to mention that is NOT revenue. You must consider debt, employees, etc. You must use Quarterly reports not just count on yer hand "what you think the revenue" is.

That figure surpasses pretty anything on the TOP 10 on this site.

 

Tue Oct 02 2007 7:11PM Report
Deatrix writes:

MMOs are advertised all the time, just not in our country, take WoW for example, the market here in the states was already hooked by blizzard, why dump a few million on a comercial? instead they threw can comercial up in other countries, I saw quite a few WoW Comercials, there was one that they teamed up with Coke for example.

Wed Oct 03 2007 10:31AM Report
Nicod3mus writes:

There were a lot of WoW commercials on in the US......and although I agree that $230 million in revenue is nothing to sneeze there are lots of other titles that have made more than that......while MS does make money and define a revenue model that was popularized by Asian/Korean gaming it is not a game that I consider on the same level as premier titles in regards to complexity, cutting edge features, cutting edge shaders/models/animations, depth of storyline, etc.

If Maple Story pioneered anything it's social networking in gaming and I personally have no desire to be "buddies" with an entire server. I represent a totally different kind of gamer than the kind attracted to a game like Maple Story.

I have very little respect for the revenue model of in-game item malls or anything else that gives players who pay more an advantage. I prefer standard subscriber wide monthly payments on top of how little respect I have or a game that's pitches "hanging out with friends" as it's biggest lure.

Wed Oct 03 2007 11:50AM Report
vajuras writes:

So what you're saying because it does not have 3D graphics it's not as complex as the cookie cutter MMOs we've been getting fed all these years? I would argue MUDs and Pen & Paper games are way more complex then the cookie cutters in regards to character development, story development, and interaction.

Did you know in Habbo Hotel players create quests for each other? They have player run events, etc? They can *Impact* their world around them?

Graphics- thats going for mainstream appeal. That has nothing to do with complex gameplay.

Plus, I challenge you to name all the MMOs that's topped $230 Million. Fact is you made all the typical mistakes here

-you thought WoW was subscription based worldwide. Um no

-you thought the average MMO on the Top 10 made more revenues, wrong again

-you think complex gameplay you must have graphics. Wrong again, there are complex MUDs out there like AVPMUD, DragonRealms, etc.

Wed Oct 03 2007 1:35PM Report
Gameloading writes:

I think we should go a bit easy on the Maple Story bashing. Its clearly an MMO designed for a younger audience. It doesn't have a lot of depth because it targets an audience that isn't looking for depth. There are many people who like the simplicity in games like MS. I'm sure if you put the average MS teenager in a game like Ultima Online, they will simply stop playing because it has to many choices and too much learning.

Its like comparing, say, Mario Kart to Gran turismo.

And I think its only fair to give Maple Story some credit. its graphics are simple yet charming and it is one of the first 2D platform MMORPG's.

Comparing it to WoW is a bit silly. Yes, WoW is making more money than any item shop mmorpg can imagine, but that is because WoW is making more money than any mmorpg company can imagine, including subscribtion based MMO's.

Wed Oct 03 2007 6:49PM Report
Nicod3mus writes:

MS does target a younger audience and thats a good point....but by the same token they are advertising on Adult Swim after midnight MST so I doubt that had the kids in mind.

As for comparing it to WoW I agree it's not a completely valid comparision but the guy said, "for the money makers, that is the future of gaming business" which I found to be a pretty eroneous statement. I think the future of the gaming business is what companies like Blizzard, Webzen, Funcom, NCSoft, etc. are doing.....I don't see Wizet or Nexon blazing any trails.

Thu Oct 04 2007 11:55AM Report
Nicod3mus writes:

Here's a few that topped $230 million in just sales and there are a lot more including EVE, DOAC, Lineage 2, Ultima Online, etc.

World of Warcraft (9 million subscribers)[110]

Guild Wars (includes Factions and Nightfall) (4 million)

EverQuest (3.5 million)

Star Wars Galaxies (1.5 million)

Thu Oct 04 2007 12:06PM Report
vajuras writes:

I wish to apologize for implying you're not familiar with MMOs. I just wanted you to realize that Asian Item Shop games are pretty successful in their own way

I do agree the commercials seem very odd too me I intially replied before even viewing them. should've just stayed on topic and phrased my points maturely like GameLoading did.

Mon Oct 08 2007 1:52AM Report

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