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Transcendent's Tomb

Submitted weekly. The tomb contains reviews, references, alternative concepts and polling to torture the truth from the minions of MMORPGs.

Author: Hhussk

Why the Troll serves no purpose.

Posted by Hhussk Thursday February 26 2009 at 11:49AM
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Over the course of MMO experiences, you can come to forums to see how games are evolving and developing. From time to time, you will be able to pick up some insight, make friends (or enemies), learn what other people think about a game, and otherwise clue yourself in to the environment.

But forums have problems, some technical and some based on the community. One community-based problem, is the fanboi: He's the guy who will defend a game to the end. I personally do not feel a fanboi is a great threat since he is a) Someone who is willing to put his dollars where his mouth is, and b) Will spend more time playing the game than talking it up (assuming he truly is a fanboi).

And the other hand, the similar problem arises in the community, but from the polar opposite of the spectrum. This other problem, which I feel is a greater poison to the forum community, is the troll.

I'll be brief. The troll serves less of a purpose, and here is why:

1. The troll tries to encourage people not to play a game. Now, seriously, what's the point of trying to get people to abandon an MMO? Wouldn't it be more simple to let people decide for themselves? After all, part of human nature is that we all like different things. It's clear that a game may have elements you like; if you basically express the parts you don't like...that doesn't necessarily make you a troll. But when you outright attack the game using generalities and no data...that makes you a troll.

2. The troll makes most of his comments based from a lack of experience. The troll may have not even played the game. Lately, I have been noticing a common trait about trolls. They don't care facts. A troll will come into a forum and start bashing a game that may not even be released, just based on unsubstantiated rumor. My point is that this serves no one. It's quite common to see confusing messages and slow evolution in game development...the industry has no perfect business model. But to complain or bash a game just because they've pushed back release or development in certain areas is not prudent. An MMO company often makes determinations not because they want to, but because they feel it's necessary.

3. The troll is critical of everything the MMO company does. He tries to make the company an enemy to gamers. I've seen this a lot. When a company has crappy customer service, the trolls come out in droves. There's nothing wrong with pointing out the problems a company has, but to become critical of every mistake they make is counter-productive. We have to understand in this community that a company is an entity (It's starts as a child and evolves). The only method we should use to judge them is based on how they mature. For example, I'm knowledgeable that Blizzard had a large amount of servers problems early on with the World of Warcraft release, but as we see, they've developed a somewhat adequate model of server maintenence which appears to work.

4. The troll spends unecessary time attacking the game. What bothers me most is how the trolls feel they are in the majority. Nothing could be further from the truth. If a fanboi is a true fan, then he is likely playing the game instead of using a forum. Think about it a second and you'll agree. Most of the time, forums and customer services are used when questions based off of complaints or lack of understanding are asked. Have you ever called customer service to say "Nice Job"? Not likely. What's more likely is this: When you like the game, you'll be playing it.

In summary, I would just like to suggest the following ettiquette:

1. If you don't like the game, state why and be specific. Use data to back up your claim.

2. If you don't like the game, state why and use an  actual experience to back up your claim.

3. Stay away from generalities, or general claims, they serve very little purpose.

4. Try to suggest what a company or game can do to get your support and subscribership  (constructive criticism). Suggesting they quit and disband is not constructive, btw.

5. Try to understand that a company has to evolve to survive. For example, one of their goals has to be "make money". If it can't make money, it won't exist much longer.

6. Overall, and most importantly, try to understand that the real goal is to promote MMOs, not ruin them. It's easy to complain about a game, but what would work better is if we have a hand in helping it evolve.

Asellia writes:

Troll's don't do it because they think it has a purpose, they do it because they're trolls. All they do is say stuff to "Troll" other people, or the game. They don't need a purpose, or a reason, the stuff they are spouting could be complete bullshit so long as people give into it.

Thu Feb 26 2009 11:58AM Report
gnlLucid writes:

 If you replace the word troll with fanboy, this blog would make sense.

Thu Feb 26 2009 12:39PM Report
DrSpanky writes:

 just like complaining about trolls serves no purpose

Thu Feb 26 2009 2:09PM Report
MadnessRealm writes:

Glad to know I'm not the only one who think this way Hhussk :P 
Troll are indeed a problematic aspect of a community and you can't get rid of them. Consider trolls as the equivalents of aids but for the internet. Once you have it, it's over. There's few ways to slow down the process but it's still impossible to cure.

Anyway, Trolls serves for one purpose: Feeding the mass media, allowing them to use these facts as ways to scare people from the internet  and it's true (do I need to mention a few exemple?).

I got one advice for you: Ignore them. They are just a handfull of imature kids that barely knows anything about the outside of their house.

Thu Feb 26 2009 2:36PM Report
TheGrue writes:

They're only a problematic aspect if you allow them to be, they serve a purpose just like the ravid fanboys, the flamer, the off-tpoic poster and so on, they keep video game forums spinning.

Can you imagine a forum without them? what fun is reading about a topic without somebody coming in to stir the pot? what a horrid concept to imagine.

Not seeing a problem with fanboys but seeing a list of problems for trolls is odd considering they're one in the same, they're two side of the same coin.

The trolls bait, so do fanboys....the trolls flame, so do fanboys, the trolls derail topics, so do fanboys.


Fri Feb 27 2009 12:12AM Report
Hhussk writes:

Hey guys, the reason I score trolls more detrimental than fanbois is explained in the article. If you are seriously a fan, you're probably too busy playing the game. But a troll doesn't really have a stake in the game; he or she probably isn't playing it anyway.

Read the article, it's all explained up there.

Fri Feb 27 2009 9:05AM Report
TheGrue writes:

Makes no difference, they're still pieces of a whole...Fanboy,'s all the same.

A Fanboy praises a game sometime to the point of being false, a troll puts down a game sometimes to the point of being false.


A Fanboy stirs the pot by flaming anybody who thinks anotner game will be better, a Troll flames anybody who thinks the game someboy's waiting for will be better than the rest.


A Fanboy openes post after post of how amazing some game will be, A troll makes post after post on how this game will fail.


It's my belief that you being a Darkfall fan you have a personal dislike to Darkfall trolls, ok..that's fine, but to say that one helps while the other hinders isn't true....they both help and hinder, they're two sides of the same coin, friend.

Fri Feb 27 2009 2:02PM Report writes:
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